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[07:36:36] <selfhoster1312> no more raspi support after next debian release: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2025/11/msg00001.html
[11:13:33] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> That's just armel ? Rpi are armhf / arm64 since a long time even version 2 ? (Not sure about v1)
[12:46:23] <Salamandar> Yeah armel is armv6 right ? so it's pi1 only. pi2 is armv7, pi3/4/5 is armv8
[12:47:10] <Salamandar> i really don't understand why debian decided to go with the name "armel", it doesn't say much
[13:05:08] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> architectures nomenclature is so fucked up yeah
[13:05:20] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> dunno if it's really Debian that decides how these get named
[13:06:53] <artlog> and aarch64 vs arm64 that's one that bug me too
[13:06:56] <Salamandar> Yeah
[13:07:01] <Salamandar> Armel is a debian thing
[13:08:11] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> i lost hope the day i learned that "i386" is the usual name to refer to regular 32 bit but it's like totally not 386 anymore but more like 686 but legacy naming convention etc
[13:09:31] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> anyway /etc/passwd stores everything but the passwords, and there are countless examples of variable/function names storing/doing the exact opposite of what their name implies
[13:09:32] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> computers are just so fucked up
[13:44:53] <Salamandar> there's i586 for some linux distros too
[13:45:37] <Salamandar> but initially i386 is the name of a processor (NOT a family, no, a specific processor from 1986)
[13:45:59] <Salamandar> the arch name was IA-32
[13:46:15] <Salamandar> and in x86, x is 0, 1, 2, and… 3 for i368
[13:46:15] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> IA 🙀
[13:46:30] <Salamandar> (ia was intel arch, nothing fancy)
[13:46:41] <artlog> let's tell that intel with itanium 64bit failure and amd64 now used for intel too doesn't help that much...
[13:46:55] <Salamandar> haha itanium hahahahahahahahah
[13:46:57] <Salamandar> sorry
[13:47:26] <Salamandar> my previous company was basically trying to resurrect the VLIW (that's the arch family itanium is in)
[13:48:11] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost-artwork] a​lexAubin pushed to main: Add the fun logos idk ([8b943c83](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost-artwork/commit/8b943c8304c81747f4ac2c430597ec6f527580c1))
[13:48:27] <Salamandar> yes what a nightmare
[13:49:06] <artlog> intel naming with the infamous 386sx vs 486sx that were absolutely unrealted, will help ia do invent funny things.
[13:49:10] <Salamandar> oh i'm discovering that i586 isn't about a 80586 cpu but about Pentium 5
[13:49:25] <Salamandar> Pentium 5 being successor of 80486 (hence the 5)
[13:50:23] <artlog> well i had one Cyrix 586 during some times
[13:50:50] <Salamandar> oh funny
[13:51:03] <Salamandar> > Intel a utilisé le nom Pentium au lieu de 80586, parce qu'en 1991, elle avait perdu un litige contre Advanced Micro Devices concernant la marque « 386 », un juge ayant déclaré que ce nombre était déjà d'usage courant pour les microprocesseurs, et donc un terme générique. La société a engagé Lexicon Branding pour trouver un nouveau nom non numérique[12].
[13:51:30] <Salamandar> > Intel used the name Pentium instead of 80586, because in 1991 it lost a dispute against Advanced Micro Devices regarding the "386" mark, a judge who stated that this number was already in common use for microprocessors, and therefore a generic term. The company hired Lexicon Branding to find a new non-digital name.[12]
[13:51:44] <Salamandar> 80's computer story is sooooooo fun
[13:55:02] <Salamandar> > Errata

> FDIV BUG

oh yeah, good times. We don't have this kind of bugs in cpu anymore *ahem*
[13:56:14] <Salamandar> (i'm joking : my current CPU has a bug that has its random number generator returning only 0xffffffff)
[14:03:57] <miro5001> I still have an old pentium II with a 4G hdd and 128M ram. Probably working
[14:05:04] <miro5001> The motherboard has a second slot for cpu 😁
[19:24:10] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin pushed to dev: debian/mail: Apparently using email relay requires libsasl2-modules in some context ([69a2b95b](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/commit/69a2b95b8a2a85b179d6dbaf08e641ec4ad67a52))
[19:30:46] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> 🏗️ Starting build for yunohost/12.1.34+202511052030 for bookworm/unstable/all...
[19:31:53] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> ✔️ Completed build for yunohost/12.1.34+202511052030 for bookworm/unstable/all.
[19:32:55] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> ✔️ Completed distribution for yunohost/12.1.34+202511052030 for bookworm/unstable.
[20:12:29] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] z​amentur closed [pull request #1726](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1726): form: add options for multiple users and groups
[20:12:30] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] z​amentur [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1726#issuecomment-3493144920) on [issue #1726](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1726) form: add options for multiple users and groups: Multiple attribute are implemented in pydantic v2 PR #2005 .SO we decided to close this one.
[20:16:59] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] J​osue-T [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1780#issuecomment-3493167941) on [issue #1780](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1780) Fix app mail - Add main domain into hosts file: Closing for now, Ill reopen if I find a good reason to have it.
[20:16:59] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] J​osue-T closed [pull request #1780](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1780): Fix app mail - Add main domain into hosts file
[20:34:20] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1785](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1785): [enh] add xz decompression for sources
[20:34:20] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1785#issuecomment-3493270473) on [issue #1785](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1785) [enh] add xz decompression for sources: Closing because support for xz has been implemented since then ... got confused about the "rename" story ... only one ap...
[20:42:09] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1820#issuecomment-3493309731) on [issue #1820](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1820) #2128 adding issuewild: Closing because we do not support wildcard certificate at the moment, and power user willing to request such a certifica...
[20:42:09] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1820](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1820): #2128 adding issuewild
[20:48:10] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1827](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1827): added SSH key mention in failed ssh connection warning message
[20:48:10] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1827#issuecomment-3493344866) on [issue #1827](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1827) added SSH key mention in failed ssh connection warning message: Closing because, yes, theres a whole topic of properly being able to define SSH keys for users and disable password aut...
[20:48:11] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin deleted branch OniriCorpe-patch-1
[20:54:59] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1846](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1846): provision: reload the firewall only once
[20:54:59] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1846#issuecomment-3493378693) on [issue #1846](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1846) provision: reload the firewall only once: Closing because it seems to have been implicitly fixed by the firewall refactoring, cf for example [prosody on the CI](h...
[22:28:53] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin pushed to dev: helpers: split ynh_local_curl to have a low-level version to cover elaborate usecases where packagers want to pass arbit... ([7898db59](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/commit/7898db59ac6101902ef17c26e9c1f85efb07d462))
[22:30:12] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> 🏗️ Starting build for yunohost/12.1.34+202511052330 for bookworm/unstable/all...
[22:30:50] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1857#issuecomment-3493863794) on [issue #1857](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1857) Update ynh_local_curl: Closing in favor of https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/commit/7898db59ac6101902ef17c26e9c1f85efb07d462 which introduce...
[22:31:48] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> ✔️ Completed build for yunohost/12.1.34+202511052330 for bookworm/unstable/all.
[22:31:48] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> ✔️ Completed distribution for yunohost/12.1.34+202511052330 for bookworm/unstable.
[22:32:38] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1856#issuecomment-3493869524) on [issue #1856](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1856) getopts: cf https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1857#issuecomment-3493863794, it feels too dangerous to modify the getopts ...
[22:32:38] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1856](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1856): getopts
[22:32:38] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1857](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1857): Update ynh_local_curl
[22:37:18] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1881#issuecomment-3493890372) on [issue #1881](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1881) more test on config read: Closing because the PR is inactive/old we are super confused (right now reviewing with ljf during PR-Lanta) so uurrrgh i...
[22:37:18] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1881](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1881): more test on config read
[22:37:18] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin deleted branch more-test-on-config-read
[22:41:38] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1882](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1882): [helpers v2.1]: ynh_remove_systemd_config: Also remove the systemd service f…
[22:41:39] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1882#issuecomment-3493906784) on [issue #1882](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1882) [helpers v2.1]: ynh_remove_systemd_config: Also remove the systemd service f…: Closing because hmpf it makes the helper not symetric with respect to the "add" version and its not really worth it com...
[22:43:08] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1870](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1870): Helpers v2.1 : download composer globally in /opt/yunohost/composer
[22:43:08] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1870#issuecomment-3493912760) on [issue #1870](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1870) Helpers v2.1 : download composer globally in /opt/yunohost/composer: Closing because hmpf its not a worth change and its fine to have the composer file in the app folder, theres no speci...
[22:47:40] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1853#issuecomment-3493608151) on [issue #1853](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1853) [WIP] Add new versions of helpers. Based on bash-modules.: Closing because the idea is interesting but its mainly a POC / discussion about what syntax we want for helpers ... But...
[22:47:52] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin closed [pull request #1853](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1853): [WIP] Add new versions of helpers. Based on bash-modules.
[22:49:11] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] a​lexAubin edited [pull request #2070](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/2070): WIP: Packaging v3
[23:05:44] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] z​amentur [commented](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/2020#issuecomment-2621654316) on [issue #2020](https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/2020) dns: add ionos to list of registrars: Thanks for your contribution, i write here, what should be done by infra team in order to merge this PR: - [x] TODO: up...