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<@err404:matrix.numericore.com> hello all,
I installed Sharkey (server/client for mastodon federated network), but my sharkey instance is an invite only, how I can generate invite key? (by command line or other way)
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<Anamee> Oh wait, there is a documentation page that I am supposed to be looking at.
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<Anamee> Do I want to run `yunohost domain dns suggest dabeep.net` or `yunohost domain dns suggest yuno.dabeep.net`?
I am using `yuno.dabeep.net` as the main domain in case I wish to use `dabeep.net` for something later.
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<Anamee> It would appear as if I can not get a Namecheap api key.
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<stereo> click on the instance logo, there is the menu for creating invites.
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> what domain are you trying to run the webapp on?
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<ederto87> Hi everyone!
I need some help. I can't update anything in my yunohost. The message I get is this one: aborting the upgrade, because a safety backup could not be created.
Anyone knows what I should do in order to fix the problem?
Thank you
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<@err404:matrix.numericore.com> yes, but I am not logged in, it is a fresh install
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<rodinux> when you have removed nextcloud, it did not remove the folder with the data `/home/yunohost.app/nextcloud`
If you want keep files inside (only the files) you can rename it
```
mv /home/yunohost.app/nextcloud /home/yunohost.app/naxtcloud-ORI
```
and try install a fresh nextcloud. Or perhaps you want try restore your backup keeping, the folder (without renaming it) in this case ?
```
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<rodinux> when you have removed nextcloud, it did not remove the folder with the data `/home/yunohost.app/nextcloud`
If you want keep files inside (only the files) you can rename it
```
mv /home/yunohost.app/nextcloud /home/yunohost.app/nextcloud-ORI
```
and try install a fresh nextcloud.
Or perhaps you want try restore your backup keeping, the folder (without renaming it) in this case ?
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<bilbo_b> m606: rodinux thank you both for looking into it and your helpful replies. rodinux If I "just" install nextcloud without further parameters, it would install the most current version. If I understand the link that m606 provided correctly, the WebUI would prevent me from restoring from a backup I made with the previous version (which is my last full nightly yunohost-backup). What would be the safest and/or most convenient sequence to get to the current nextcloud version up with full data from my previous full backup.tar?
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<bilbo_b> ah, I just found a pre-upgrade-backup from the failed instation, when trying to restore it complains that nextcloud is already installed. will try to remove nextcloud app and restore pre-upgrade-backup.
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<bilbo_b> :( it can't restore nextcloud, possibly related to the memories-app within nextcloud which I suspect running the original nextcloud-upgrade into an error: https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/qaliwipisi
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<bilbo_b> trying restore nextcloud from full backup (after uninstalling nextcloud)
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<bilbo_b> "yunohost backup restore 20260330-000309.tar --apps nextcloud" results in:
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<bilbo_b> Info: Provisioning apt...
Info: Provisioning database...
Info: [++..................] > Restoring the app main directory...
Info: [##+++...............] > Restoring data directory...
Info: [#####++.............] > Restoring the MySQL database...
Exception in thread Thread-8:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3.11/threading.py", line 1038, in _bootstrap_inner
Warning: --------------
self.run()
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yunohost/utils/process.py", line 157, in run
self.queue.put((self.log_callback, line.decode("utf-8").strip("\n")))
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Warning: INSERT INTO `memories_planet_geometry` VALUES
UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xe6 in position 39: invalid continuation byte
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<naitx> Hi everyone! I have a question about Borg Backup on YunoHost:
I have two Borg instances installed: `borg` (automated, backup to HDD) and `borg__2` (manual, backup to RAID). I want to exclude specific folders from `borg`, but include them in `borg__2`.
I found that placing a `.nobackup` file in a folder excludes it — but this applies to both instances. The `data_multimedia` toggle in the config panel is too coarse, as I only want to exclude certain subfolders, not all multimedia data.
Is there a native way in YunoHost Borg to define per-instance exclusion paths? Or is a workaround (e.g. a script that temporarily removes `.nobackup` before running `borg__2`) the intended approach?
Thanks!
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<SiriWesen> https://aria.im/_bifrost/v1/media/download/AWC3DFleJ8f0UkiNVpYZuSA1tzNHJxofFTvCM2dpcj7yibebKbxEjQ-YIpRp8DC_RSLZ_QODitEI1X7asfc4ODhCedSLbCQgAG1hdHJpeC5vcmcvZFFYSEtYYUtoYmd6d0ZGV05hQkVxcWNP
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<naitx> Hi again! Following up on my previous question, I found that each instance has its own hook file in `/etc/yunohost/hooks.d/backup_method/`.
Two questions:
1. Is it safe to remove `--exclude-if-present .nobackup` from `05-borg__2_app` only, so `.nobackup` files are respected by `borg` but ignored by `borg__2`, or is there a cleaner way?
2. This file will likely be overwritten on updates - is there an update-safe way to apply such customizations?
Thanks!
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<Yaeghs> Hello there ! I am pondering using my yunohost instance (currently used to provide a nextcloud) to share password between my different devices, with the password database being on the yunohost instance. And I have two questions :
1. Is it something you'd trust a yunohost instance ? If we can trust for a nextcloud instance, i don't see why not, but I'm not a security expert at all.
2. What would be the application to use in this instance ? I find there is Keeweb and Vaultwarden in the application list. Which one should I use ?
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> vaultwarden
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<tituspijean> I concur with Vaultwarden. I trust it, because the database is encrypted at rest. It's your password that decrypts it.
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<Yaeghs> Thank you for your answers !
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> the main things you need to consider when selfhosting a password manager are:
- do you have an alternative way of accessing your passwords if your server goes down (especially if you add mfa to it)?
- do you trust yourself to keep up with security updates?
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<Yaeghs> - I have my main adress mail where everyone of my accounts are linked to. I pay for it so even if I lose access, I can contact the client uspport. But it can be long. Not including its password might be a good idea ? If I loose my database, I won't loose my mail and then I can recover if needed.
- Ah. A very good question.
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<Yaeghs> Updates are far easier to deal with once packaged in yunohost
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> yunohost has an automatic updates app. you can set it to only do security updates if you want
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> re 1: iirc the mobile bitwarden client allows you to download the whole vault, but i'm not certain
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<Yaeghs> There seems to be an update of the vaultwarden package by month. It's not that dififcult to keep up. I might not want to automatically update in case it breaks things as it is a critic service
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<Yaeghs> Oh. Really good !
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<Yaeghs> I love yunohost :3
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<Yaeghs> Oh. There's an option to update automatically only for secure update ? That's terrifyingly convenient
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> same!
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> thank you all ❤️
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<Yaeghs> I second the thank you ! I follow YunoHost since its first year. And I keep being amazed each time I come back to it ! :D
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<bilbo_b> is there a way to restore a nextcloud-backup containing data for the "memories"-app not compatible with the most current version of nextcloud in yunohost (33.0.1~ynh1)? or to restore the backup including the version of nextcloud it was backed up with (32.0.7~ynh1) ?
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<Yaeghs> There's a nyan nyan cat with a trans flag as waiting screen *-*
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<SiriWesen> I love the trans nyan cat
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<SiriWesen> Also turns out my domain provider doesnt support wildcards for AAAA. Well that sucks i guess
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<DJ Chase (fae/faer)> cname?
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<m606> in the link I povided you with, @rodinux:matrix.org was suggesting basically the same thing that he also directly suggested to you, i.e. rename the folder which YNH complained about due to "already existing" when trying to reinstall Nextcloud.
I don't much about the nextcloud package in particular which he surely knows better than me, and not sure why he also suggested to restore - probably that could fix that directory issue as you don't seem to find it anymore in your last log.
Now you come with a new error related to the database and in particular to the Memory app table indeed. You may want to try this: https://forum.yunohost.org/t/nextcloud-update-failed-restore-backup-failed/36643 (keep an unmodified backup as well to be on the safe side)
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<m606> @bilbo_b:matrix.qlch.de or this: https://forum.yunohost.org/t/nextcloud-update-fails-backup-restore-fails-due-to-memories/41227
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<bilbo_b> thank you, I was following the original instruction to remove the nextcloud dir but that was only the first error preventing me. the root cause seemed the no longer supported memory-app within nextcloud (backup). Will try the suggestions in your links.
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<bilbo_b> Following the instructions from here https://forum.yunohost.org/t/nextcloud-update-and-restore-failed-after-first-updating-yunohost/41189/50 the restore seemed to work. I had to add "--app nextcloud", as I was using a full backup, so my command was "yunohost backup restore 20260330-000309.tar --app nextcloud --debug". As far as I can tell right now, it was successful. Thank you very much for your help m606 and rodinux !
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<sebastian> Hi there I am having trouble updating synapse(from 11.144.0~ynh1 to 1.149.1~ynh1).
Warning: File or folder '/etc/php/8.3/fpm/pool.d/synapse.conf' to be backed up does not exist
Error: Failed to collect files to backed up for synapse.
I tried skipping the backup but this doesn't work either
Here is the log https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/awemotoyot
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ```
2026-03-31 19:14:45,611: DEBUG - Err:4 https://packages.sury.org/php bookworm InRelease
2026-03-31 19:14:45,611: DEBUG - The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG B188E2B695BD4743 DEB.SURY.ORG Automatic Signing Key <deb@sury.org>
2026-03-31 19:14:45,663: DEBUG - Err:6 https://dl.yarnpkg.com/debian stable InRelease
2026-03-31 19:14:45,663: DEBUG - The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 62D54FD4003F6525
```
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> zgrmpf
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<sebastian> thanks will try now
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> would try to run a `sudo yunohost tools regen-conf apt`, then check if this error still appears when running `sudo apt update`
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<sebastian> the error ...sury.org seems resolved but the missing public key for yarn is still here
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> hmmmmok, that's eeeh partially good news 😅
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> i guess that should fix the issue with synapse upgrade (though you still need to skip the backup, which is worrysome, meh)
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> but the yarn signature might cause trouble later for nodejs-related apps, idk, i'm not sure
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<sebastian> Yes that worked merci beaucoup
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<sebastian> I found a post in the forum which has worked: https://forum.yunohost.org/t/yarn-repo-key-expired-edit-changed-again-is-it-ok-to-trust-it/41380/15
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<Yaeghs> I've launched an update for my Nextcloud from the admin panel. And it has already been 3 hours and I fear there might be a problem. What can I do ?
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<Yaeghs> Can I stop it and launch it again through ssh so I can monitor it closely ?
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<tituspijean> @lhp-yaeghs:matrix.org which version of YunoHost are you running? In (relative) recent versions, refreshing the page won't crash the update: the webadmin and the running commands are not intimately linked anymore.
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<tituspijean> With "big" apps like Nextcloud (it happens to me with Immich also), sometimes the webserver struggles and the browser temporarily loses the connection with the server. It should reconnect automatically, but we have an open issue about it: sometimes it does not. Refreshing the page won't break anything: the browser will simply connect again to the backend and display the status of the upgrade.
If 3 hours have already passed, most likely the upgrade is done. :)
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<Yaeghs> *relief sigh* I had to disconnect hoping it was the case and indeed it is !
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<Yaeghs> I'll know. thanks !
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<Yaeghs> (and i will upload through ssh, it will avoid such cases)
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<Yaeghs> ah, no. My nextcloud instance seems down. I'll back up and update then
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<tituspijean> you may check and share the upgrade log first, to see what happened (or did not happen 😅 )