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[12:43:39] <gredin67> did you think of creating a matrix space for yunohost? I'm not sure it makes sense right now, but someone asked here #matrix_yunohost:sans-nuage.fr
[12:44:30] <gredin67> (a room dedicated to matrix bridges with yunohost)
[12:47:44] <Aleks> there *is* a matrix space for yunohost
[12:49:10] <tituspijean> https://matrix.to/#/#yunohost-space:matrix.org
[12:49:26] <Aleks> i'm not able to add #matrix_yunohost:sans-nuage.fr in the space, matrix doesn't seem to find the room, is it because sans-nuage.fr is banned from matrix.org etc ?
[12:50:09] <Aleks> (btw weren't we supposed to have a custom logo for the Yunohost app room ? 🤔)
[12:50:53] <Aleks> uuuh and why is the doc room duplicated o.o
[12:53:43] <Aleks> aaaand i just left the old support room and got kicked from the new support room as a reponse
[12:53:43] <Aleks> https://i.imgflip.com/6qc4t9.jpg
[12:55:07] <Aleks> alright so the old doc room ain't relevant anymore, i'm removing it from the space
[13:05:20] <tituspijean> Aleks: can you make me admin of the space too? I'll try to debug adding the room (my titus:pijean.ovh account is still in limbo)
[13:05:33] <Aleks> oh sure
[13:05:52] <Aleks> but
[13:05:56] <Aleks> you already are admin 🤔
[13:06:17] <Aleks> ah there's two of you
[13:06:20] <Aleks> done for the other
[13:07:03] <tituspijean> > <@Alekswag:matrix.org> you already are admin 🤔

nah it's my account hosted on my server, here I'm talking with my account on matrix.org 'coz I have yet to fix my Synapse/Dendrite server
[13:07:23] <tituspijean> (is it hell? yes it is)
[13:07:52] <tituspijean> ah but you did add it already :)
[13:08:41] <tituspijean> We indeed lost the YunoHost Apps room icon :/
[13:14:36] <tituspijean> eeeeeh I only see Bram as admin of this room
[13:17:39] <tituspijean> Bramcan you make a bunch of us admins? ( Aleks @ljf:sans-nuage.fr tituspijean eric_G )
[13:18:20] <Aleks> 🤔
[13:18:57] <tituspijean> That's very weird. I thought we fixed the rooms shenanigans
[13:25:58] <Aleks> yea...
[14:03:25] <tituspijean> > <@tituspijean:matrix.org> nah it's my account hosted on my server, here I'm talking with my account on matrix.org 'coz I have yet to fix my Synapse/Dendrite server

I'm back bitches
[14:03:41] <tituspijean[m]> (or am I?)
[14:04:20] <@ericg:matrix.org> j'vois double 👁️👁️
[14:05:14] <tituspijean[m]> tant mieux, ça veut dire que ça marche ^^
[14:05:39] <tituspijean[m]> Mais bon, Dendrite est vraiment loin d'être prête pour de la prod. Pas de LDAP notamment :/
[14:06:10] <@ericg:matrix.org> such a power user
[14:06:44] <@ericg:matrix.org> I need a second matrix account too 😅
[14:07:11] <tituspijean[m]> (don't do that to yourself, it's so annoying to jump between them)
[15:26:48] <gredin67> > <@tituspijean:matrix.org> nah it's my account hosted on my server, here I'm talking with my account on matrix.org 'coz I have yet to fix my Synapse/Dendrite server

I'm curious to know what is a "Synapse/Dendrite server" 😱
[15:28:02] <tituspijean> gredin67: Dendrite is a Matrix server written in Go, as a much lighter alternative to Synapse
[15:29:25] <gredin67> yes but why synapse/dendrite ? do you run both synapse and dendrite on a single server?
[15:30:08] <tituspijean> gredin67: in my investigations I ended up with both of them on the same server yeah
[15:30:16] <tituspijean> (Dont try that at home kids)
[15:30:57] <@navan:navan.dev> How does message syncing work then
[15:32:43] <gredin67> that's what I thought, I'll wait for you to debug the dendrite package before trying out again.
[15:53:39] <tituspijean> Navan: it doesnt, hence why I have multiple accounts now
[15:54:03] <@navan:navan.dev> Oof
[15:54:20] <@navan:navan.dev> Only reason I have a matrix.org account is because sometimes my home server becomes a bit wonky
[15:55:03] <@navan:navan.dev> Also, I have been reading about https://solidproject.org/
[15:55:17] <@navan:navan.dev> It would be interesting to see if there is a way we can collaborate with them
[15:55:18] <tituspijean> I think one of the future features for Matrix is the identity portability. That would be nice.
[15:55:48] <@navan:navan.dev> Yes! That would be incredible
[16:55:00] <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> this sort of thing when i just started the migration to ynh 11
[16:55:19] <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> will it change its status? or i'll have to simply wait blindly 😄
[16:55:23] <@tio:matrix.trom.tf> https://aria.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.trom.tf/lmDYywoikmWjgoXjhXfGlOQn
[17:09:15] <@Bram_:matrix.org> irc bridge is still totally broken, yay
[17:09:39] <@Bram_:matrix.org> and indeed I'm the only admin :|
[17:10:14] <@Bram_:matrix.org> tituspijean: should be good
[17:10:18] <@Bram_:matrix.org> ah, there is titus
[17:10:26] <@Bram_:matrix.org> *2
[17:10:27] <tituspijean[m]> (I am legion)
[17:10:45] <@Bram_:matrix.org> should I make the 2 admin?
[17:11:05] <tituspijean[m]> Yes please. I am in a battle between a Synapse and a Dendrite server :)
[17:11:47] <tituspijean[m]> Thanks! It's so weird the admin list was reduced to only you.
[17:12:28] <@Bram_:matrix.org> I think I'm the "creator" of this room?
[17:12:36] <tituspijean[m]> Quite possible yeah
[17:13:35] <@Bram_:matrix.org> I remember having made a shitload of room to map everything from irc a long time ago
[17:25:30] <tituspijean[m]> > <@navan:navan.dev> Also, I have been reading about https://solidproject.org/

I think I remember Aleks having an... opinion about it? 😅
[17:26:30] <Aleks> omg
[17:26:52] <tituspijean[m]> (coin inserted :p)
[17:27:00] <Aleks> Ah I guess Solid itself may be great
[17:27:46] <Aleks> but there's some folks in Paris trying to build a framework for social network using this ... which is somewhat ok except they're like a full-on startup bullshit and have no actual stuff to show
[17:28:07] <Aleks> yet some marketing guy is able to sell a non-existent thing as if it's like the next big web thing whatever
[17:28:59] <tituspijean[m]> (ah I misrembered the target of your wrath :p)
[17:29:00] <Aleks> i mean those kind of ideas are great but only if you actually build a flagship / killer-app with it (or even just something decent)
[17:29:13] <Aleks> like Activity Pub is used by other project because Mastodon exists
[17:29:46] <Aleks> but I don't know any project using Solid and being actually somewhat succesful
[17:30:27] <Aleks> imho people know about Solid mostly because Tim Berners-Lee is behind it
[17:32:22] <@Bram_:matrix.org> for me it's yet another attempt at the never really working semantic web of data :/
[17:33:36] <@Bram_:matrix.org> (and I'm using some semantic web @ work and it's great for some stuff but that's pretty specific)
[17:36:08] <Maranda> Can you also make Mjolnir Archon PL50 to handle spam tiding?
[17:36:22] <@Bram_:matrix.org> how do I do that in the web ui stuff?
[17:36:30] <Maranda> *Pretty please* 😀
[17:36:52] <Maranda> change role to Moderator?
[17:37:19] <@Bram_:matrix.org> ok
[17:37:43] <Aleks> (btw what's the command to tweak user level ? é_è i forgot how to do this and would like to try to add some admins on the support room)
[17:38:00] <Aleks> (though i may recall we can't actually add admin because of the bridging...)
[17:38:32] <@Bram_:matrix.org> (I think that's the reason we can't yes)
[17:38:40] <Maranda> Hmm I'm not sure there's a mapping in Element anymore
[17:39:38] <Maranda> > <@Alekswag:matrix.org> (though i may recall we can't actually add admin because of the bridging...)

Appservice is not admin anymore by the looks so that problem is averted
[17:41:12] <Aleks> 🤔
[17:41:55] <Aleks> ah it's supposed to be `/op` but that command doesnt work/exist for some reason on the libera chat room
[17:42:11] <Aleks> *frowning intensifies*
[17:44:24] <@Bram_:matrix.org> apparently we are still "mods" on the support room