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[13:39:54] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> https://mstdn.fr/@ButterflyOfFire/109403814350155732
[13:42:19] <tituspijean> Ouaille Haine Hache
[13:43:24] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ouille aille no aoutche
[13:44:35] <tituspijean> That's the cry of people selfhosting **without** YunoHost
[13:49:51] <Charles> > That's the cry of people selfhosting **without** YunoHost
why some people, specially technical people say it's better to do everything by hand, and not use a ready to go server distro like ynh?
[13:53:11] <tituspijean> I can understand the appeal of doing everything by hand, to deeply know what your server is doing.
In my case, laziness takes over fast. 😛
[13:53:43] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> > <Charles> > That's the cry of people selfhosting **without** YunoHost
> why some people, specially technical people say it's better to do everything by hand, and not use a ready to go server distro like ynh?

because they like the elitist culture idk
[13:54:21] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> any sane people in life won't think "Eh I shall build my car myself, this is so much better than buying a ready-to-go car !"
[13:55:13] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> even programmers are like "this is totally NOT fine to reimplement every piece of software each time you need something, just check what library exists and use those, nobody has time to rewrite everything and even if you did this would be a terrible idea"
[13:55:34] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> but somehow people are like "oh yeah i need a new server so let me re-do everything from scratch"
[13:56:07] <Charles> me as a newbie on the server side, I m impressed how well ynh works, a lot of IT people advised me before..."having your own email will be thousands of spam signaling, it's impossible to manage bla bla bla"
[13:56:17] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> but the Ikea effect is a thing, though
[13:56:18] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA_effect
[13:56:42] <Charles> I have it for a few months with many services, and zero headaches
[13:56:52] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> yeah because nobody tried to automatize the mess
[13:57:07] <Charles> I can't be more thankfull with the ynh devs
[13:57:34] <Charles> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IKEA_effect
haha, i did once with a bed, never again
[13:58:54] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ah ? I do have an ikea bed, it is so much better than those pesky pre-assembled beds !
[13:59:58] <tituspijean> I've got one to build soon, I'll report if I want to pay 63% more for it in retrospect. :p
[14:01:48] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> :D
[14:24:35] <tituspijean> Aleks (he/him/il/lui): do you have an idea what's the issue with alchemiq's domain?
[14:25:21] <tituspijean> "Failed to resolve A for alchemiq.noho.st", even after waiting more than 24h, seemingly
[14:38:14] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [issues] @ziima commented on issue #2088 yunohost user create/delete/group commands are taking ages to complete: We have the same issue. It takes us about half an hour to add a new user. We have around 1000 users. I worked fine in Ju... https://github.com/YunoHost/issues/issues/2088#issuecomment-1327568991
[16:19:37] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [issues] @ziima commented on issue #2088 yunohost user create/delete/group commands are taking ages to complete: Ive added some debug logs on our test server and heres the output 1909 DEBUG user_group_update start 1933 DEBUG u... https://github.com/YunoHost/issues/issues/2088#issuecomment-1327672422
[16:23:15] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [issues] @alexAubin commented on issue #2088 yunohost user create/delete/group commands are taking ages to complete: Yes indeed thats a bit worrysome ... but Im surprised : did this issue happen "suddenly", or did you see it appear pro... https://github.com/YunoHost/issues/issues/2088#issuecomment-1327675095
[16:33:12] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [issues] @ziima commented on issue #2088 yunohost user create/delete/group commands are taking ages to complete: Id say suddenly. We added few users in July and now in November. In July users were added quickly (few seconds), but in... https://github.com/YunoHost/issues/issues/2088#issuecomment-1327682144
[20:29:49] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> https://github.com/wader/jqjq
[23:17:34] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] @alexAubin merged pull request #1537: Allow apps to be installed on a path sharing a common base, eg /foo and /foo2 https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/pull/1537
[23:17:34] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] @alexAubin pushed 1 commit to dev: Allow apps to be installed on a path sharing a common base, eg /foo and /foo2 (#1537) https://github.com/YunoHost/yunohost/commit/ae5941116d7eafa2f20f55c114829f18fe3d14eb
[23:17:36] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> [yunohost] @alexAubin deleted branch allow-app-same-base
[23:30:40] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> 🏗️ Starting build for yunohost/11.1.0.2+202211252330 for bullseye/unstable/all ...
[23:31:54] <Yunohost Git/Infra notifications> ✔️ Completed build for yunohost/11.1.0.2+202211252330 for bullseye/unstable/all.