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<jerome> Hi there! Joining with element using my fresh yunohost instance :)
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<jerome> Just tried to install code-server but it seems It failed: https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/onilehadah
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<wayneoutthere> welcome. That's the best I can do for now :)
Although 'maindomain.tld' looks suspcious to me...
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<wayneoutthere> > <@ericg:matrix.org> wayneoutthere: you should be able to install Mautic in a sub-domain like `mautic.yourdomain.tld` from the testing branch.
hey!! this is already almost working from this testing branch, sir!
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<wayneoutthere> macaroni! it's working. make that branch live. it's way better than whatever is there already. i installed, logged in right away
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<wayneoutthere> now that I spent probably 3 hours today staring at code I don't understand... i woudl love to know the 'why' behind how you fixed all the nginx redirect stuff. In a few sentences. Just so I can at least say I learned something ha
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<jerome> > <@jerome:jutteau.fr> Just tried to install code-server but it seems It failed: https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/onilehadah
Seems the app need dedicated domain, sorry for noise
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<Karl (AT)> I have a question how to log in to synapse admin. Running Yunohost latest Updates from Yesterday + Synapse 1.74. Update. Logging in to synapse-admin redirects me back to login screen message - logged of ( I see abgemeldet) - If i use a non existing user or pass i get forbidden. Looks like it accepts the user, but kicks me out again.
I run a select * from users and saw there is no admin flag on any user. Is this not required from synapse admin? Or is there any other workaround?
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<tituspijean> Karl (AT): I think there is a long standing issue with Synapse Admin that I have not succeeded in tackling yet. But first, have you made your user admin in Synapse? There are instructions in synapse_ynh repo README.
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<Karl (AT)> I will check that out. Thank you.
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<beelu> Bonjour à tous, yunohost.org est down ?
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<tituspijean> Oui :/
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<tituspijean> @room the datacenter hosting our main server is down. Expect our website, documentation, forum, and dyndns system to not be accessible.
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<beelu> Arf ok, merci
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<Maranda> tituspijean: it's back up Jim.
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<ButterflyOfFire> OK merci
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<wayneoutthere> > <@jerome:jutteau.fr> Seems the app need dedicated domain, sorry for noise
yeah I've noticed nearly 100% of the apps i installed needed their own domain. I've become a master at creating letsencrypted-subdomains in the last 48 hours, ha
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<wayneoutthere> by the way, I noticed that the PDFSignature app is en francais mais je pense qu'english is useful for many. Is there somewhere I can input some translation? I think I might be able to handle many of the strings?
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> by the way, I noticed that the PDFSignature app is en francais mais je pense qu'english is useful for many. Is there somewhere I can input some translation? I think I might be able to handle many of the strings?
you might want to head over to https://github.com/24eme/signaturepdf and propose to help them translate the app :)
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<tituspijean> notably over at https://github.com/24eme/signaturepdf/issues/48
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<wayneoutthere> ok thanks
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<wayneoutthere> for wordpress, it must be possible to install it as the main domain root? However, I tried to do just a backslash for the directory instead of /blog (default) and it wouldn't let me. maybe you can't?
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<wayneoutthere> my goal would be that wordpress is the kind of 'outside visitor' (ie. a business) and then all the rest is 'somewhere else'
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<tituspijean> (Note that it should be a standard slash /, not backslash)
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<wayneoutthere> sorry i meant slash not backslask
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<tituspijean> What was the error?
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<tituspijean> Most likely you installed other apps on the same (sub)domain. If so, you can set the Wordpress app as default app to have your visitors automatically redirected from / to /blog
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<wayneoutthere> ah...
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<wayneoutthere> actually, what I get is a warning that says 'are you sure you want to do this? You can't put any other app here" which is ok.
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<wayneoutthere> so really there should be a kind of 'pre-planning' process someone goes through before installing YH to figure out their need...
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<wayneoutthere> probably most people would want what I want with WP being the 'main page' on the domain..
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<tituspijean> There are as many uses for YunoHost as users. If you use it for business, then hell yeah you need to think it through in advance :p
But in any case, most of the common apps can have their URL changed without uninstalling them, which is convenient if you end up changing your pre-planning. :)
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<wayneoutthere> wow.
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<wayneoutthere> that is super awesome if true, haha
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> probably most people would want what I want with WP being the 'main page' on the domain..
hence the "make default" feature ;)
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<wayneoutthere> ... i saw that but let me go see that again
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<tituspijean> it's at least true for Wordpress
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<wayneoutthere> oh neat
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<wayneoutthere> i see what you mean. so you can install various apps on various domains and sub-domains, and then if you decide you want one of them to be the 'default' app that outside visitors see you select 'make default' for that app?
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<tituspijean> yes. And that means that if they type `yourdomain.tld` it brings them to `yourdomain.tld/the_default_app`
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<wayneoutthere> got it. thanks much
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<tituspijean> (or maybe even if the app is on another domain, I have not tested that out)
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<wayneoutthere> i am trying to promote this to other small businesses in my circle but first I have to know wha tI"m doing and also have a working demo
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<wayneoutthere> your help much apprecaited
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<wayneoutthere> by the way, i noticed that Roundcube (really great these days, by the way!) installs on maindomain.tld/webmail
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<wayneoutthere> but probably that won't affect something like wordpress on /
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<tituspijean> The location of any app is up to you. (except for apps that specifically require to be installed on their own sole domain).
If you install an app on /, then you won't be able to install another one on /webmail.
If you install an app on /blog, and use the "make default" button, then you can install another one on /webmail
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<tituspijean> (and vice-versa, installing an app on /webmail will prevent you from installing an app on / of the same domain)
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<wayneoutthere> so roundcube can interrupt the plan if you install it first
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<wayneoutthere> in that case if you want to keep it clean then you should do subdomains for everything
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<wayneoutthere> ?
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<tituspijean> as you prefer :)
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<wayneoutthere> ok thx
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<wayneoutthere> question: i tried to install wordpress just now and it said that 'you can't because you have domain.tld/appname1 and domain.tld/appname2 (etc) installed. However, those were uninstalled and installed on a subdomain. is there a way to purge that somehow?
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<wayneoutthere> (they are not installed on the tld)
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<tituspijean> https://aria.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/pijean.ovh/a7cb9083d1c19ea62390b7a0873db66293312da7d315f22762d34520df39c90b
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<wayneoutthere> haha
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> question: i tried to install wordpress just now and it said that 'you can't because you have domain.tld/appname1 and domain.tld/appname2 (etc) installed. However, those were uninstalled and installed on a subdomain. is there a way to purge that somehow?
that's definitely weird, are you 100% sure no app is installed on the domain?
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<wayneoutthere> sorry, those two apps *were* installed on the main domain, but I uninstalled them and moved them to a subdomain. I assume subdomain is totally separate from main domain? that's why I was surprised to see warning
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<wayneoutthere> it is on app1.maindomain.tld/appname1 , not maindomain.tld/appname1
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<wayneoutthere> i'll use `squiggly` in the future sorry
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<tituspijean> haha no problem you were crystal clear
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<tituspijean> that's definitely not normal though
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<wayneoutthere> right...
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<wayneoutthere> seems like the record was left in some file
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<tituspijean> try running `sudo yunohost app ssowatconf`
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<wayneoutthere> it looks exotic so I'll run it just because of that
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<wayneoutthere> i ran it but it didn't give me any exotic output! refund!
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<wayneoutthere> now what do I do? haha
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<wayneoutthere> i'll uninstall WP and try again
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<wayneoutthere> and see if get those warnings?
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<wayneoutthere> quick question while it's in my mind:
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<wayneoutthere> so if I move everything to a subdomain (ie. roundcube) and then I install WP as the `maindomain.tld` and it successfully installs, and outside people when they type `maindomain.tld` end up on wordpress site, how do regular users login? Do you have to manually type in something like `maindomain.tld/sso/login` kind of thing?
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<wayneoutthere> by the way, i figured it out (above) my eyes were bad on one of them and the other one was roundcube which is installed on `maindomain.tld` so disregard
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<wayneoutthere> i'll try moving domains around and clearing away my maindomain thanks for your help again!
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<tituspijean> so it was PEBKAC :p
no worries
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<wayneoutthere> PEBKAC?? More exotic talk! tell me what you called me :)
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<wayneoutthere> oh
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<wayneoutthere> between keyboard and computer?
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<wayneoutthere> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> so if I move everything to a subdomain (ie. roundcube) and then I install WP as the `maindomain.tld` and it successfully installs, and outside people when they type `maindomain.tld` end up on wordpress site, how do regular users login? Do you have to manually type in something like `maindomain.tld/sso/login` kind of thing?
if you have answer to this, though, that will mend my broken heart
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<wayneoutthere> by the way i'm going to write a kind of 'planning guide for small businesses for YH' shortly so your efforts won't be wasted entirely
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<wayneoutthere> another few questions as they come up:
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<wayneoutthere> 1. does it make sense to initially install Yunohost on a subdomain such as `yh.maindomain.tld` so that the sign-in part is always separated from 'other business'?
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<wayneoutthere> 2. If you use the backup feature, and then restore it onto a second server (let's say offline in your office) can you use the entire functionality of server like that?
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<wayneoutthere> at least for searching records etc that are in DB?
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> between keyboard and computer?
chair and keyboard, aka you :p
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> if you have answer to this, though, that will mend my broken heart
yes indeed. However nothing prevents you from putting a link on the wordpress site towards /sso/login
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> by the way i'm going to write a kind of 'planning guide for small businesses for YH' shortly so your efforts won't be wasted entirely
you are most welcome to share it on the forum, section *Tutorials and How-to*
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> 1. does it make sense to initially install Yunohost on a subdomain such as `yh.maindomain.tld` so that the sign-in part is always separated from 'other business'?
right now the login/sso is by design always accessible on the path /yunohost/sso, whatever the domain
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> 2. If you use the backup feature, and then restore it onto a second server (let's say offline in your office) can you use the entire functionality of server like that?
I guess so, though you would need to trick your computer to reach the domain on the proper IP address, or use the (possibly not available) changing url feature
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<wayneoutthere> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> you are most welcome to share it on the forum, section *Tutorials and How-to*
cool. i might do it on my 'crap-blog' because I might now have time to refine it. Then I might put a link in the forum to it so that I can refine it and then when it's nice perhaps can paste it into blog. At least I'll publish some kind of doc so others can comment and help with it.
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<wayneoutthere> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> right now the login/sso is by design always accessible on the path /yunohost/sso, whatever the domain
ok then that should be good enough and then, as you said, you can create a link there anywhere.
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<wayneoutthere> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> I guess so, though you would need to trick your computer to reach the domain on the proper IP address, or use the (possibly not available) changing url feature
so- here's what I'm thinking... i'm not sure if this is a smart idea, but if you could automate this concept into a kind of UI 'offline' button feature, that would be amazing. Imagine this, for example:
* Friday night you click 'backup' on YH
* Monday you get to your desk, and boom - your ISP goes down or your main server
* you turn on an old laptop and open YH ...(not sure how this part would work but would be ideal without internet perhaps a kind of Snap, Flatpak, Appimage?). Perhaps the app is called Yunohost-OFFLINE
* when the app opens it asks you: a) where is your backup file? and b) what was your original path to your domain?
* YHOL (Yunohost Offline) pulls in the data, does the tricks and you have a kind of 'usable' suite...
end dreaming here. ha
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<Guest703> C'est bien ici lorsqu'on a une galère a l'installation d'une appli ?
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<wayneoutthere> tu peux demandez.. je ne sais pas s'il y a un group pour francais mais je pense que c'est bien ici?
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<wayneoutthere> attention - mon francais est tres mal, haha. mais les autres je pense peuvent aidez
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<Guest703> ok in english :p
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<Guest703> i have a problem when i want install the application "kimai2"
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<Guest703> i have the message "WARNING - Corrupt source"
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<Guest703> and after : "ERROR - Impossible d'installer kimai2 : Une erreur est survenue dans le script d'installation de l'application"
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<Guest703> impossible to install the application because an error in the script
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<wayneoutthere> to me looks like whoever wrote the app has some bad code?
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<wayneoutthere> or at least in the installation part of the script
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> so- here's what I'm thinking... i'm not sure if this is a smart idea, but if you could automate this concept into a kind of UI 'offline' button feature, that would be amazing. Imagine this, for example:
>
> * Friday night you click 'backup' on YH
> * Monday you get to your desk, and boom - your ISP goes down or your main server
> * you turn on an old laptop and open YH ...(not sure how this part would work but would be ideal without internet perhaps a kind of Snap, Flatpak, Appimage?). Perhaps the app is called Yunohost-OFFLINE
> * when the app opens it asks you: a) where is your backup file? and b) what was your original path to your domain?
>
> * YHOL (Yunohost Offline) pulls in the data, does the tricks and you have a kind of 'usable' suite...
>
> end dreaming here. ha
there's fallback_ynh for that, to redirect a failing server to backup one
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<Guest703> well, i think it's impossible to install without a fix i suppose :/
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<tituspijean> let me investigate
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<tituspijean> please share the full installation log btw
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<Guest703> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/uheniwuqit
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<Guest703> thank a lot :)
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<tituspijean> Guest703: can you update your system and try again? It looks like your catalog is not up to date (pulling Kimai v1.27 while the latest is 1.30 in our repo)
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<Guest703> i try :)
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<Guest703> It's not working, yet it's the right version from the GUI. :(
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<tituspijean> Can you share the new log?
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<Guest703> yes
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<Guest703> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/eyufusopom
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<tituspijean> I have made a fix, could you try it out? You need the command line: `sudo yunohost app install https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/kimai2_ynh/tree/fix-src -f`
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<Guest703> yes
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<Guest703> Error: Requirements are not met for kimai2, the package yunohost (0:) must be >= 11.0.0
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<Guest703> my yunohost app is in 11.0.10.2
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<Guest5875> tituspijean sorry i was disconnect, it's ok for your fix !
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<wayneoutthere> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> there's fallback_ynh for that, to redirect a failing server to backup one
what is 'fallback_ynh'. Is that an app?
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<ynhuser> hi everyone, after restoring my system can't login to admin page, any ideas?
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<wayneoutthere> new question: has anyone here successfully configured and used DKIM? :)
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> what is 'fallback_ynh'. Is that an app?
Yes: https://forum.yunohost.org/t/fallback-backup-and-restore-automatically-your-server/3482
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<tituspijean> > <@ynhuser:libera.chat> hi everyone, after restoring my system can't login to admin page, any ideas?
Any error?
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<tituspijean> > <@wayneoutthere:matrix.org> new question: has anyone here successfully configured and used DKIM? :)
It's better to lead with the issues you have :)
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<beelu> Après avoir proposé des modifications sur la doc, faut-il cocher "create pull request" ? Je ne connais pas github :p
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<Tag> beelu: tout juste!
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<beelu> C'est envoyé, merci Tag:
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<wayneoutthere> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> Yes: https://forum.yunohost.org/t/fallback-backup-and-restore-automatically-your-server/3482
wow. awesome thanks!
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<wayneoutthere> your wisdom rings loud...shall do. Basically i'm getting an error message in diagnosis related to DKIM
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<wayneoutthere> seems like YH can only handle a kind of shorter text sha256 hash pair or something... maybe
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<wayneoutthere> when I set up DKIM before I just used an online tool and it seemed to work but YH is giving me a 'no' to whatever i'm doing. I feel like all I need is a 'new tool' to create a hash pair in the way YH likes it..? maybe...
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<Osuka> Has annyone gotten Pufferpanel to host servers through YunoHost?