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<goldbeardp> Spam!
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<@tuxakadjseb:lebeaunuage.net> Je cherche à modifier les mots de passe (admin et mon utilisateur) de NextCloud. J’ai beau avoir cherché partout, je ne vois pas comment procéder.
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> les utilisateurs de Nextcloud sont les utilisateurs de YunoHost, donc changer leur mot de passe, ça veut dire le changer dans Yunohost
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<@tuxakadjseb:lebeaunuage.net> Ah okay, je vais donc le faire au niveau de Yunohost et non Nextcloud.
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<miro5001> Is there a way to backup only one user?
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> Nope
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> https://github.com/YunoHost/issues/issues/148
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> Backing up "one user" is a fuzzy notion ... like sure you can backup the home folder, but what about the user's data inside each app, what do you do with wordpress posts written by a user, etc...
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<Gcco> Sorry to pollute this forum with this, but I would like to cancel a monthly donation, so I sent an email to donate-5542@yunohost.org last week and didn't get any news since...
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> zblerg yeah
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> will ping the person who has access to do this
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<miro5001> > <@Alekswag:matrix.org> Backing up "one user" is a fuzzy notion ... like sure you can backup the home folder, but what about the user's data inside each app, what do you do with wordpress posts written by a user, etc...
And if ever a user asks me to give him a copy of his data, it won't be easy.
Anyway, the most important things are the mailbox and the data folder. Tar it will be
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> my point is that technically speaking, creating a tarball with the user's data home and mail is easy, but this may not be what is meant by "the user's data" ... If the user wrote an article on a Wordpress managed with a bunch of people, or if the user has a bunch of shared data on Nextcloud, or has a bunch of pad on Etherpad (that they wrote alone or with the help of other folks), then good luck identifying what can be defined as "the user's data", it's just an ill-defined notion
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<miro5001> > <@Alekswag:matrix.org> my point is that technically speaking, creating a tarball with the user's data home and mail is easy, but this may not be what is meant by "the user's data" ... If the user wrote an article on a Wordpress managed with a bunch of people, or if the user has a bunch of shared data on Nextcloud, or has a bunch of pad on Etherpad (that they wrote alone or with the help of other folks), then good luck identifying what can be defined as "the user's data", it's just an ill-defined notion
All my users are family. That won't be a problem. But from a legal point of view, I don't know if the server admin has to give the user his data or just help him make backup. I'm intending using a server for a university department, still investigating what tools I will need
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<tituspijean> Interesting notion... should YunoHost be considered a services provider and offer interoperability features to export such data? May we never have to implement _that_...
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> yeah cf the original issue, "Data portability" etc, but that's like a full research project ... ultimately I doubt YunoHost can really provide a clean answer to this, because even assuming what is meant by "user data" would be somewhat well-defined, you'd end up having to run app-specific SQL queries on app to extract the user's data
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> and in the end you need to be the app developer to know what query to run
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<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> so "data portability" is something upstream developers should care about, YunoHost can't realistically handle this job
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<miro5001> So short answer is depends.
For the mailbox and data it will be easy for other apps, it depends on the app
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<mavric34> Why do all applications display this message after installation?
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<mavric34> https://aria.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/NBHsPGJwtHHMmqCVdKricenC
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<mavric34> I have to restart the nginx service every time, which means I have to reconnect to all the other applications!
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<mavric34> Is there any way to fix this without restarting the nginx server?
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<Hans Kristiansen> Hi, is Debian 12 supported now?
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<Carlos Solís> > <@hansjk:matrix.org> Hi, is Debian 12 supported now?
Not quite yet!
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<Carlos Solís> There's a Bookworm based testing server, but we can't install much on it yet.
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<Hans Kristiansen> Ok, thanks