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[00:30:40] <Clousseau> My upgrade of Monica app failed. https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/tuvilasefe
[01:05:39] <Clousseau> I uninstalled and trying to re-install Monica. Still getting the same warning:
[01:05:40] <Clousseau> dpkg: warning: version 'v8.0.1' has bad syntax: version number does not start with digit
[01:49:27] <nathanreed> Hello! This is a small thing, since I'm testing anyway, but I've installed glitch-soc on ynh... it seems that if I register as a new user on glitch, I can't reset my password since it's using SSO. Does anyone know if I missed a step, a checkbox, or if this is just the way it is?
[03:00:41] <bhe> Shared install VPS and old PC
[12:37:20] <tripop[m]> Hum... i made a plenorma account. I made a profil. I KNOW it's a password, i made it save it on my browser... Plenorma deceide it's not the good password ??
[12:37:21] <tripop[m]> Like.... what ?
[12:37:47] <tripop[m]> I got no other account, i put this password.. did it change my password alone, like this ? For nothing ? wtf ?
[12:38:26] <tripop[m]> I litterally disconnect on a browser i was log in. Credentials was registred... "invalid authentification" what ?
[12:40:12] <tripop[m]> Oh plenorma got issue : litterally change the password of the acoount in the admin panel : still not working
[12:43:34] <tripop[m]> Also the admin password you put during the installation on plenorma ALSO doesn't work on the admin and it's the normal password that is in use. What's the use of admin password then ? Mystery
[12:44:44] <tripop[m]> Ok now can't access admin anymore
[12:44:55] <tripop[m]> Wow plenorma is crap i see...
[12:45:38] <tripop[m]> Pleroma*
[12:46:10] <tripop[m]> You create account, didn"t touch anything. And it deceide it delete admin password and connect connect to anything anymore. For nothing. Great. Twitter are so affraid of crappy desing app
[12:46:49] <Le fractal> > <@tripop[m]:libera.chat> Wow plenorma is crap i see...

Had similar issues with the pleroma app for yunohost. Couldn't log in. Pleroma is fine imo, it's the yunohost app of it that is messed up.
[12:47:43] <tripop[m]> > <@sir-poulpy[m]:libera.chat> > <@tripop[m]:libera.chat> Wow plenorma is crap i see...
>
> Had similar issues with the pleroma app for yunohost. Couldn't log in. Pleroma is fine imo, it's the yunohost app of it that is messed up.

Hum ok, but if pleroma good why users i create not working ? Why it didn't send password reset mail ? Why admin not the admin password ?
[12:49:23] <Le fractal> > <@tripop[m]:libera.chat> > <@sir-poulpy[m]:libera.chat> > <@tripop[m]:libera.chat> Wow plenorma is crap i see...
> >
> > Had similar issues with the pleroma app for yunohost. Couldn't log in. Pleroma is fine imo, it's the yunohost app of it that is messed up.
>
> Hum ok, but if pleroma good why users i create not working ? Why it didn't send password reset mail ? Why admin not the admin password ?

I ended up installing pleroma from scratch and it worked well :)
[12:50:14] <tripop[m]> Yunohost is full of app you said "cool i could selfhosted that !" and you learn it's a nightmare, could loose all for.. really nothing one issues or two and you loose history of matrix messages. Loose admin account (??) Cannot send mail properly So after that you just... create a account on GAFAM because... yeah... Why bother the fight alone, hu ?
[12:51:51] <tripop[m]> They make fun of the lost of 2FA on twitter... Well on their alternative you could just loose your account for nothing ! And they don't even send password reset email !
[12:56:55] <tripop[m]> -Can i know why my user change password, or make it not working ?
-Can i know why pleroma (a stared app on yunohost app catalog, but i learn star mean absolutly nothing on the stability of the app) doesn't send mail ? password reset ? For a... a social network, really ?
-Can i know why a special admin password is not used anywhere after the installation script ? (a STARED installation script)

I'm sorry, i just believe in self-hosting but all teelling me is shitty, unstable and never working despite anything i do make me rant, sorry
[13:04:04] <tripop[m]> Admin CLI not working. Reset the password of the user with pleroma CLI not working. WOW !
[13:05:38] <tripop[m]> I REALLY need to know the logic to put a star on a app, really. 3 app with a star i saw it's barely maintened, the git issues is not even answered AND the app have issues. So.. .what's the logic here ? It's just a way to put the dev favorite apps on front that's all ?
[13:09:04] <tripop[m]> Oh. It's seem it's firefox fault also... When this browser get good also ?
[13:09:25] <tripop[m]> SOMANY issue i have with self-hosted app solved by jus go to chromium it's crazy.
[13:09:53] <tripop[m]> So.. Why Pleroma log in not working on firefox ? Mystery..
[13:10:24] <tripop[m]> (And i mean, even on another computer firefox don't want to log in. Well it's okay then. I will not fight that today)
[13:11:29] <tripop[m]> Sorry for the rant, just... WHY ?? 😭
[13:20:05] <tripop[m]> * SOMANY issue i have with self-hosted app solved by just go to chromium it's crazy.
[13:23:19] <tripop[m]> Hum.. It seem it when you connected to yunohost, you cannot connect to Pleroma. So that's a different issue here.
[13:35:09] <tituspijean> As to the starred apps, it's a distinction given automatically if an app has been level 7 for more than 6 months-ish.
However, the automated tests on the apps are quite basic, and only check that the page loads with no error after installation. it does not test for logins, for example. We rely on users to kindly point out issues missed by the packager and the CI.
[14:26:21] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> > <@tripop[m]:libera.chat> Sorry for the rant, just... WHY ?? 😭

Because Yunohost is actually a conspiracy by people who like to purposely create badly designed software to waste people time
[14:26:28] <jorgeluis[m]> Hi, all. We have huge accumulated log files on /var/log, especially on syslog.1 and daemon.log.1
[14:26:42] <jorgeluis[m]> How can we get rid of those? Is it safe to delete those logs?
[14:28:38] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> Yes you can get rid of the .1 logs
[14:37:13] <jorgeluis[m]> > <@Alekswag[m]:libera.chat> Yes you can get rid of the .1 logs

Do you know why they do accumulate like that? Is there a kind of server maintenance guide you are aware of?
[14:56:54] <tituspijean> IIRC it's a log rotation tool integrated for the system logs. I don't know the criteria though, I guess it's either size or age.
[14:58:22] <tituspijean> I use these commands to cleanup the logs:
[14:58:26] <tituspijean> ```
sudo rm -rf /var/log/*.?
sudo rm -rf /var/log/*/*.?
sudo rm -rf /var/log/*.gz
sudo rm -rf /var/log/*/*.gz
sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=1d
```
[14:59:14] <jorgeluis[m]> Thanks! It helps a lot
[14:59:17] <cybernetx[m]> je vrifie mes log et j ai ceci : https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/memaluxumo
[15:07:57] <tituspijean> looks like a bug with the auto-dns. Which provider do you use? Can you set the records manually?
[15:12:29] <tituspijean> Too all matrix users still on libera.chat (including jorgeluis and cybernetx :p), you can use the #yunohost:matrix.org room now. (I've the feeling that images posted by matrix users using the :libera.chat room are not sent to the :matrix.org room)
[15:13:40] <mcmic> Upgrade of pleroma failed :-/
[15:13:53] <mcmic> https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/pleroma_ynh/issues/217 is anyone fluent in pleroma logs?
[15:14:54] <mcmic> The upgrade failed and the rollback as well it's left in non-working state. Not sure if I should relaunch the upgrade process or if that may make it worse?
[15:17:12] <ynhuser> Voici les pbs que j'ai pour les MAJ Les pré-requis de nextcloud ne sont pas satisfaits, le paquet yunohost (4.4.2.14) doit être >= 11.0.9
[15:18:01] <mcmic> > Voici les pbs que j'ai pour les MAJ Les pré-requis de nextcloud ne sont pas satisfaits, le paquet yunohost (4.4.2.14) doit être >= 11.0.9
Il faut que tu mette à jour yunohost vers la version 11
[15:21:16] <ynhuser> voic ce qui ressort pour la migration WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.
[15:22:22] <tituspijean> Merci de partager les logs complets, avec le bouton "Partager les logs avec YunoPaste". partage ici l'adresse de la page web qui s'ouvre alors, pas l'entièreté du pavé de lignes de log.
[15:22:59] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/jomekavuho
[15:23:58] <ynhuser> Merci à vous en tout cas
[15:29:14] <tituspijean> ```
2022-11-18 15:20:00,914: INFO - + The following packages have unmet dependencies:
2022-11-18 15:20:01,001: INFO - + limesurvey-ynh-deps : Depends: python-pip but it is not going to be installed
```
Trichons et installons-le à la main: `apt install python-pip`
[15:29:27] <ynhuser> comment faire pour installer à la main ?
[15:29:53] <ynhuser> par ssh
[15:29:57] <ynhuser> ?
[15:30:36] <jorgeluis[m]> > <@titus[m]:libera.chat> Too all matrix users still on libera.chat (including jorgeluis and cybernetx :p), you can use the #yunohost:matrix.org room now. (I've the feeling that images posted by matrix users using the :libera.chat room are not sent to the :matrix.org room)

I am having issues to join that room
[15:31:56] <tituspijean> Give it some time, I saw you join, it's only a matter of waiting for the sync now :)
[15:32:05] <tituspijean> > <@ynhuser:libera.chat> par ssh

oui!
[15:32:11] <tituspijean> `sudo apt install python-pip`
[15:32:45] <mcmic> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/beludopaki
[15:38:40] <ynhuser> python-pip is already the newest version (18.1-5) upgraded 0 and 841 not ipgraded
[15:38:42] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/idujemaray
[15:43:55] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/oyoyoqavej
[15:48:10] <ynhuser> désolé je ne comprends pas, python à l'air mis à jour
[17:08:47] <Guoes> I have a problem?
[17:09:27] <Guoes> I have a problem
[17:13:27] <Guoes> tituspijean what?
[17:13:27] <tituspijean> We have a problem.
[17:17:17] <Guoes> I try install yunohost on 32 bit machine but am getting an error on boot it won't boot
[17:37:12] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> ```
> 2022-11-18 15:20:00,914: INFO - + The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> 2022-11-18 15:20:01,001: INFO - + limesurvey-ynh-deps : Depends: python-pip but it is not going to be installed
> ```
> Trichons et installons-le à la main: `apt install python-pip`

`python-pip` n'est plus dispo en bullseye car c'est sous-entendu la version python2.
[17:37:32] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> Potentiellement il faut mieu désinstaller limesurvey (ou le backuper) et le reinstaller/restaurer après le passage à Bullseye
[17:37:56] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ou alors faire un force-upgrade dès fois que ça upgrade la liste des dépendances pour supprimer la dépendance à python2
[17:40:35] <yvanq>

De mon côté j'avais backupé les sondages que j'ai réimporté une fois limesurvey réinstallé
[17:41:25] <yvanq>

De mon côté j'avais backupé les sondages que j'ai ensuite réimporté dans la nouvelle installation de limesurvey
[17:42:18] <yvanq> De mon côté j'ai backupé les sondages que j'ai ensuite réimporté dans une nouvelle installation de limesurvey
[17:43:03] <yvanq> C'est bizarre matrix refuse que je cite un message pour y répondre ça m'efface tout à chaque fois
[17:46:27] <Guoes> I try install yunohost on 32 bit machine but am getting an error on boot it won't boot
[17:47:32] <anubis> Guoes, did you downloaded the 32bit image?
[17:48:43] <Guoes> yes
[17:51:16] <Guoes> anubis I reconnect yes
[17:52:43] <anubis> installing from a USB stick or cdrom ? check that the image was properly burned
[17:54:22] <Guoes> I download it and burn on usb using belenaEtcher
[18:10:40] <Guoes> anubis[m]I download it and burn on usb using belenaEtcher
[18:11:36] <ynhuser> merci bcp
[18:29:11] <Guoes> anubis[m]I download it and burn on usb using belenaEtcher
[19:08:42] <ynhuser> bonjour
[19:08:50] <ynhuser> je n'arrive pas à restaurer une sauvegharde limesurvey
[19:08:50] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/evamofaxib
[19:13:40] <Cire7770> J'ai un serveur dédié chez OVH et installé Debian 11 (Bullseye) Server avec en complément DirectAdmin (Web Control Panel) pour proposer des espaces de communication pour mes clients. Je trouve le principe de YunoHost génial et je suis très intéressé depuis longtemps pour installer une instance Peertube en plus. Dans mon cas, est-ce possible
[19:13:41] <Cire7770> ? Si je ne me trompe, il me semble que dans mon cas la  procédure d'insall devrait être différente. N'étant pas un pro de l'administation de server (je me débrouille juste un peu...), j'ai besoin de conseils et éventuellement connaitre la procédure à effectuer. Je vous remercie par avance et excellent week-end à tous !
[19:17:15] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/evamofaxib
[20:05:49] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/evamofaxib
[20:05:49] <ynhuser> bonjour j'ai un problème avec la restauration de limesurvey
[20:30:26] <tufek> > <@ynhuser:libera.chat> bonjour j'ai un problème avec la restauration de limesurvey

instinctivement j'aurais peut-être tenté d'installer manuellement python3-pip qui semble trigger ton backup, mais sans garantie :D
[20:38:21] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> le probleme c'est que limesurvey dépends explicitement de python-pip précisément :/
[20:39:02] <ynhuser> pouvez-vous me dire comment faire svp
[20:39:04] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> une magouille possible c'est de créer un paquet virtuel python-pip pour faire semblant que le paquet est installé mais c'est un peu technique
[20:39:09] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> je cherche
[20:47:24] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> hmf mouai ça met apt en PLS
[20:47:39] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> bon sinon faut éditer le script de restore on the fly
[20:53:47] <ynhuser> je suis dépassé à ce stade
[20:53:51] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ynhuser: je tente un truc qui consiste à dezipper l'archive, éditer les scripts de l'app, et recréer l'archive, mais je suis pas sur du détail des commandes. Si l'une de ces commandes ne marche pas, demande avant de passer à la suite:

```
sudo su # pour devenir root si tu l'est pas déjà
cd /root/
mkdir tmp-backup-tweak
cd tmp-backup-tweak
cp /home/yunohost.backup/archives/20221118-155223.tar ./
tar -xvf 20221118-155223.tar ./archive
sed -i 's/python-pip//g' ./archive/apps/limesurvey/settings/scripts/*
tar -cvf 20221118-155223-fixed.tar ./archive
cp 20221118-155223-fixed.tar /home/yunohost.backup/archives/
```
[20:54:42] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> et à la fin de toutes ces manips tu devrait avoir une nouvelle sauvegarde (visible dans la webadmin aussi) qui s'appelle "20221118-155223-fixed"
[20:58:47] <ynhuser> bug ./archive not found
[20:59:16] <ynhuser> au moment de la commande tar -xvf
[20:59:32] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ah yep alors fait juste un `mkdir archive` avant
[20:59:44] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ah nope attends
[21:02:03] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> bon dans ce cas je change les commandes:

```
tar -xvf 20221118-155223.tar
sed -i 's/python-pip//g' ./apps/limesurvey/settings/scripts/*
tar -cvf 20221118-155223-fixed.tar ./apps ./info.json
cp 20221118-155223-fixed.tar /home/yunohost.backup/archives/
```

(NB je suppose que dans ton backup tu n'as que limesurvey)
[21:02:25] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ah merde il manque le backup.csv
[21:02:27] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> du coup ça donne:
[21:02:36] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ```
tar -xvf 20221118-155223.tar
sed -i 's/python-pip//g' ./apps/limesurvey/settings/scripts/*
tar -cvf 20221118-155223-fixed.tar ./apps ./info.json ./backup.csv
cp 20221118-155223-fixed.tar /home/yunohost.backup/archives/
```
[21:03:25] <ynhuser> ok je test
[21:05:51] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/bazocucadu
[21:06:14] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> oui tu as bien fait ma version updaté des commandes avec `tar -cvf 20221118-155223-fixed.tar ./apps ./info.json ./backup.csv` ? (Note le backup.csv à la fin)
[21:07:13] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> si tu ne l'a pas fait il faut la refaire (en étant dans le bon dossier) puis refaire le `cp 20221118-155223-fixed.tar /home/yunohost.backup/archives/`
[21:09:56] <ynhuser> dans tmp
[21:10:41] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> dans `/root/tmp-backup-tweak`
[21:10:49] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> tu peux y retourner avec `cd /root/tmp-backup-tweak`
[21:11:53] <ynhuser> ok merci je teste et reviens vers toi merci bcp
[21:13:32] <ynhuser> erreur  502 bad gateway
[21:14:25] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> 502 bad gateway suite à quoi ...?
[21:14:45] <ynhuser> suite à la réinstallation qui a marché
[21:15:05] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ok mais c'est en tentant d'ouvrir limesurvey du coup ?
[21:15:37] <ynhuser> oui
[21:16:06] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> dans ce cas il faudrait aller dans la partie 'Services' de la webadmin, il y a sans doute Limesurvey qui est KO, il faudrait partager les logs avec le bouton vert
[21:20:09] <ynhuser> et je peux pas recuperer lpar l'archive les modèles et les implementer dans une nouvelle installation
[21:20:28] <ynhuser> https://paste.yunohost.org/yetipemebi
[21:24:35] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ça j'ai l'impression que c'est les logs de nginx, ce qu'il faut c'est les logs du service limesurvey
[21:25:19] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> ou alors c'est genre php7.4 qui est en caraffe ?
[21:25:26] <Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> bref dans la liste des Services normalemnt y'en a un qui est en rouge
[21:28:13] <ynhuser> non pas trouvé
[21:29:39] <ynhuser> je vais continuer à chercher mais merci bcp
[21:37:21] <ynhuser> il n'apparait pas dans les services
[21:39:47] <ynhuser> je fais la maj
[21:41:30] <ynhuser> bravo ca marche
[21:48:50] <ynhuser> juste la page admin qui est inaccessible mais je vais trouver
[22:34:18] <eriix> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/enasaqanaz

I can't upgrade Synapse... Because of a character not valid in latin-1? I must be missing the real problem, somewhere.