[03:45:41]
<biglonthenet> hello - how do i add users to Conduit.rs on Yunohost?
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<Tag> > <@biglonthenet:matrix.org> hello - how do i add users to Conduit.rs on Yunohost?
They have to register from Element or any orner client
[07:19:03]
<ChriChri> BTW: Which is the easiest Matrix server for a very small instance? I installed Dendroid, but it didn't work "just like that". If it would be Conduit, I'd switch before I get around to invest more time into looking into Dendroid. Are there advantages, disadvantages I should take into account?
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<tituspijean> > I installed Dendroid, but it didn't work "just like that".
Tell me more 🙂
[07:28:17]
<tituspijean> btw it's Dendrite
[07:29:14]
<tituspijean> Both Dendrite and Conduit are beta software, you need to check their features on their repository READMEs.
[07:29:30]
<tituspijean> but both are lightweight, seemingly Conduit is lighter
[07:29:31]
<ChriChri> Uhm, really, I didn't debug. I just installed, registered a new user through fluffychat and tried to open a direct chat with another account I have. Didn't work. That's what I remember - then I focused on other stuff...
Yup, thanks **Dendrite**.
[07:32:20]
<tituspijean> Then don't discard Dendrite right away, check the federation tester for example.
[07:35:08]
<ChriChri> …looking at READMEs…
[07:37:38]
<ChriChri> Hm, I guess I can live with the missing features of conduits and if the ressource footprint would be lower...
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<ChriChri> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> Then don't discard Dendrite right away, check the federation tester for example.
Uhm, this is strange: I did and it said it couldn't open the port. I checked and found dendrite not running (I had a few reboots while moving my boot device from eMMC to software raid on sata). `systemctl start dendrite` started dendride and the federation tester was happy.
And: I started my client...
[07:53:28]
<ChriChri> ... it worked to open a direct chat, but it didn't to join this room following an invitation, yet.
```
Sep 25 09:52:20 link-goe.de dendrite[16190]: time="2023-09-25T07:52:20.551230036Z" level=info msg="User requested to room join" room_id="!gvRsI7cG1o9SVr56:pijean.ovh" servers="[]" user_id="@chrichri:link-goe.de"
Sep 25 09:52:20 link-goe.de dendrite[16190]: time="2023-09-25T07:52:20.558454277Z" level=error msg="Failed to join room" error="contents=[] msg={\n\t\t\t\t\"errcode\": \"M_LIMIT_EXCEEDED\",\n\t\t\t\t\"error\": \"There is already a federated join to this room in progress. Please wait for it to finish.\"\n\t\t\t} code=429 wrapped=" room_id="!gvRsI7cG1o9SVr56:pijean.ovh" servers="[]" user_id="@chrichri:link-goe.de"
```
[07:55:27]
<ChriChri[m]> Either the manual joining worked or the confirmation of the invitation needed a lot of time. Anyway, here I am from dendrite :).
[07:55:28]
<tituspijean> > There is already a federated join to this room in progress. Please wait for it to finish
Initial sync can be a tad long, a future feature (https://github.com/matrix-org/sliding-sync) will smoothen that
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<Salamandar> > <@chrichri:librem.one> BTW: Which is the easiest Matrix server for a very small instance? I installed Dendroid, but it didn't work "just like that". If it would be Conduit, I'd switch before I get around to invest more time into looking into Dendroid. Are there advantages, disadvantages I should take into account?
Synapse I guess. It's the official server implementation, and every tuto / bridge setup is for synapse
[08:08:04]
<Salamandar> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> > There is already a federated join to this room in progress. Please wait for it to finish
>
> Initial sync can be a tad long, a future feature (https://github.com/matrix-org/sliding-sync) will smoothen that
It's a very close future: I'm using Element X on Android for a few days now, it's really nice.
[08:08:59]
<Salamandar> > <@chrichri:librem.one> Uhm, this is strange: I did and it said it couldn't open the port. I checked and found dendrite not running (I had a few reboots while moving my boot device from eMMC to software raid on sata). `systemctl start dendrite` started dendride and the federation tester was happy.
> And: I started my client...
I'm curious. What server hardware do you have ? (your message makes me think about helios64…)
[08:12:02]
<ChriChri> > <@Salamandar:matrix.org> I'm curious. What server hardware do you have ? (your message makes me think about helios64…)
RockPro64 inside the Pine64 NAS case, two sata SSDs.
[08:13:23]
<Salamandar> Hah alright, okay 🙂
[08:16:08]
<ChriChri> > <@Salamandar:matrix.org> Hah alright, okay 🙂
Why?
[08:20:58]
<Berker> Hi everyone, I have been running nextcloud, searXNG, jitsi and wireguard. I installed pi-hole and can't get it to work. dnsmasq service is dead and pi-hole ftl is offline. I searched the forum and created a vpn file with listen-address=10.10.10.0 in /etc/dnsmask.d according to a post.
[08:21:28]
<Berker> dnsmasq is unable to restart
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<Berker> I'd very much appreciate if someone could help
[08:22:11]
<Salamandar> tl;dr I have a Helios64 and it's the best SBC NAS hardware ever produced, but they pulled the plug. So I'm kinda searching for a worthy replacement to suggest to my friends.
[08:22:27]
<Salamandar> that's why I was curious about your SATA raid NAS 🙂
[08:22:39]
<tituspijean> Berker: I have myself reinstalled pihole during the weekend for similar testings with VPNs, I think disabling dnsmasq is "normal". but pihole-ftl should be running.
Please you share your diagnosis report and Pihole's logs.
[08:23:48]
<Berker> Thanks, give me a sec
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<tituspijean> > according to a post.
Can you link to it? 🙂
[08:24:58]
<Berker> https://paste.yunohost.org/raw/ocofafutuy
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<Berker> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> > according to a post.
>
> Can you link to it? 🙂
https://forum.yunohost.org/t/wireguard-vpn-on-yunohost-using-pihole-dns-ad-blocking/15763
[08:26:16]
<Berker> and this post: https://forum.yunohost.org/t/pi-hole-the-ftl-service-is-offline/25550
[08:27:02]
<Berker> I did sudo yunohost tools regen-conf dnsmasq --force
after another suggestion, which didnt help
[08:32:04]
<Berker> pi-hone diagnosis has a warning:
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<Berker> Warning in dnsmasq core:
no addresses found for interface wlan0
[08:41:44]
<Berker> tituspijean: and here is the pi-hole logs:
[08:41:49]
<Berker> https://paste.yunohost.org/ufiwulapav.swift
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<ChriChri> > <@Salamandar:matrix.org> that's why I was curious about your SATA raid NAS 🙂
I just started it as a test: for the NAS case, the RockPro64 and yunohost. I expected to move the installation to another system, but didn't run into issues so far. For ~7W this is really a nice setup. The case could house two more harddrives and I'm thinking about replacing my oldest Synology NAS with a RAID5 installation. Though I ran into some u-boot problems with my 5-port SATA controller (replaced it with a two port one since I do not expect to extend the yunohost with additonal disks anytime soon).
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<ChriChri> I'm waiting to test the Quart64 a more powerful alternative...
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<Salamandar> haha okay
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<Salamandar> yeah but quartz64 seems to have only one SATA
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<Salamandar> Ah, yes, now I see the PCIe port
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<tituspijean> > <@b_e_r_k_e_r:matrix.org> https://paste.yunohost.org/ufiwulapav.swift
thanks! I'm sorry I'm actually at work, I will have more time tonight to check it out and check my own configuration
[09:08:30]
<Berker> tituspijean: Ok, thanks alot mate
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<tituspijean> > failed to load names from /etc/pihole/custom.list: No such file or directory
This folder/file was created on my setup. Can you try force-upgrading the app? `sudo yunohost app upgrade pihole -f`
[09:26:03]
<tituspijean> > <@b_e_r_k_e_r:matrix.org> https://forum.yunohost.org/t/wireguard-vpn-on-yunohost-using-pihole-dns-ad-blocking/15763
eh I guess I will read myself again to debug my own setup 😅
[09:26:04]
<Berker> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> > failed to load names from /etc/pihole/custom.list: No such file or directory
>
> This folder/file was created on my setup. Can you try force-upgrading the app? `sudo yunohost app upgrade pihole -f`
usage: yunohost app upgrade [app ...] [-h] [-u URL] [-f FILE] [-F] [-b] [-c]
yunohost app upgrade: error: argument -f/--file: expected one argument
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<Berker> --force worked
[09:27:51]
<Berker> upgrading
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<tituspijean> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> oops yeah sorry
I'm always mixing up `install -f`=`install --force` and (`upgrade -f`=`upgrade --file`) != (`upgrade -F` = `upgrade --force`)
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<tituspijean> oops yeah sorry
[09:30:18]
<Aleks (he/him/il/lui)> yeah the `--file` was here first :|
[09:36:13]
<Berker> tituspijean: Upgrade completed
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<Berker> ftl is still offline
[09:42:45]
<Berker> In the pihole > tools > network i see the 10.10.10.0 as well now
[09:43:30]
<tituspijean> what's the output of `ls /etc/pihole`? try `sudo touch /etc/pihole/{custom,local}.list`
[09:43:31]
<Berker> nothing happens
[09:43:34]
<Berker> no output
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<tituspijean> even for `ls /etc/pihole` ? 😲
[09:44:26]
<Berker> yes
[09:44:48]
<Berker> adlists.list list.3.s3.amazonaws.com.domains.sha1
custom.list list.4.s3.amazonaws.com.domains
dhcp.leases list.4.s3.amazonaws.com.domains.sha1
dns-servers.conf localbranches
GitHubVersions local.list
gravity.db localversions
gravity_old.db logrotate
list.1.raw.githubusercontent.com.domains migration_backup
list.1.raw.githubusercontent.com.domains.sha1 pihole-FTL.conf
list.2.sysctl.org.domains pihole-FTL.db
list.2.sysctl.org.domains.sha1 setupVars.conf
list.3.s3.amazonaws.com.domains
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<Berker> ls /etc/pihole
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<tituspijean> try restarting the service now
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<Berker> I tried already
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<Berker> It restarts successfully
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<Berker> but status shows exited
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<Berker> https://paste.yunohost.org/igamiyafep.swift
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<tituspijean> can you share its log again ?
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<Berker> I'll reboot
[09:54:51]
<tituspijean> Do you have internet access with WireGuard on?
[09:58:21]
<Berker> I just connected to the server with my phone via wireguard and I do have internet access
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<Berker> but pihole doesn't seem to block adds there as well
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<tituspijean> Have you got something like `AllowedIPs=0.0.0.0/0,::/0` in the wireguard clients configs?
[10:15:06]
<tituspijean> Check `sudo tail /var/log/pihole/pihole.log -n 50` to see if there's a reason why the service stopped
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<Berker> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> Have you got something like `AllowedIPs=0.0.0.0/0,::/0` in the wireguard clients configs?
I do
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<Berker> 10.10.10.1/32
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<Berker> https://aria.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/FFaXcRnEhngnhWIhSJmfXyzC
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<Berker> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> Check `sudo tail /var/log/pihole/pihole.log -n 50` to see if there's a reason why the service stopped
https://paste.yunohost.org/miseloloma.pl
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<tituspijean> > <@b_e_r_k_e_r:matrix.org> https://paste.yunohost.org/miseloloma.pl
Based on that, the service should be running. 🤨
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<tituspijean> > <@b_e_r_k_e_r:matrix.org> sent an image.
I'm not sure it's related, but try adding `::/0` to the allowed IPs too. Apply the config and re-download it.
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<Berker> now wireguard doesn't work either
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<Berker> https://aria.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/unEeybIgxxGvjoVqhHtkripY
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<tituspijean> > <@b_e_r_k_e_r:matrix.org> now wireguard doesn't work either
if an app/service "does not work", we really need its log 😉
[11:49:14]
<Berker> Sorry.. 😅
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<Berker> Will send you the logs when I'm front of the comp again
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<orhtej2> > <@b_e_r_k_e_r:matrix.org> Will send you the logs when I'm front of the comp again
FYI These are accessible via webui as well
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<Berker> Wireguard is probably working as expected but because the pihole ftl is offline, addresses don't resolve
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<Berker> is my guess
[12:39:12]
<Berker> orhtej2: from tools > services you mean ?
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<orhtej2> > <@b_e_r_k_e_r:matrix.org> orhtej2: from tools > services you mean ?
yes, there's button `share logs with yunopaste` to make these available
[12:45:53]
<Berker> tituspijean: here is the wireguard log but as I mentioned its probably working properly but because of the pihole, requests dont resolve:
[12:45:56]
<Berker> https://paste.yunohost.org/eqevulacij
[12:49:54]
<Berker> Pi-hole ftl log: https://paste.yunohost.org/azugerudep
[13:30:25]
<Thomas> Hello, does anyone have a similar problem?
I can no longer connect my clients (Element) on Android or on my PC
https://forum.yunohost.org/t/synapse-sign-in-webside-doesnt-work/26472
[13:31:18]
<Thomas> This happened after the last update : 1.92.3~ynh1
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<isAAAc> > <@tmenon:liberium.fr> Hello, does anyone have a similar problem?
> I can no longer connect my clients (Element) on Android or on my PC
> https://forum.yunohost.org/t/synapse-sign-in-webside-doesnt-work/26472
works here, from android and ffox,
Installed version: 1.92.3~ynh1
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<Thomas> Thank you but the operation of the working identification still goes away
[15:57:08]
<Professor Nope> https://matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix-2-0/
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<fch> > https://matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix-2-0/
Are they going to comply with EU and add some backdoor?
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<tituspijean> > <fch> > https://matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix-2-0/
> Are they going to comply with EU and add some backdoor?
What are you talking about? DMA?
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<fch> > > <fch> > https://matrix.org/blog/2023/09/matrix-2-0/
> > Are they going to comply with EU and add some backdoor?
>
> What are you talking about? DMA?
yes, how does it affect matrix, and yunohost in general?
[19:43:11]
<tituspijean> IIRC Matrix.org was actually a promoter of DMA regarding interoperability :
https://matrix.org/blog/2022/02/03/digital-markets-act-and-interoperability-myth-debunking-of-the-gatekeepers-arguments/
and https://matrix.org/blog/2023/03/15/the-dma-stakeholder-workshop-interoperability-between-messaging-services/
[19:45:21]
<tituspijean> Will it affect YunoHost? I have not read the regulation (I'd like to keep my sanity please), but I don't think self-hosted applications fall in the definition of gatekeeping, on the contrary.
[19:47:16]
<tituspijean> As to how you concluded that DMA will force companies, gatekeepers, Matrix and YunoHost to implement backdoors... let's just say that tinfoil-hat discussions are not welcome here. :)
[21:11:45]
<Maranda> (And DMA has nothing to do with the kind of "backdoors" that's implied here)
[21:15:10]
<Maranda> (too.. you probably were seeking for DSA and DPA and good luck applying those to "not for profit initiatives" and related software)
[21:15:59]
<Maranda> (and / or services)
[22:25:24]
<Professor Nope> https://www.gk-p.jp/
[22:28:17]
<tituspijean> Japanese sewer systems, when you think you've seen all kinds of messages...