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[01:36:44] <Maranda> over-expectancies of people torward a free of charge service never ceases to amaze me... ™️
[01:41:38] <Maranda> hook fyi... << 23/01 We have been sorting out post-migration issues with the Kubernetes Cluster network fabric integration into our internal WAN infrastructure which may have caused service intermittence, sorry for the inconvenience. >> directly from the aria-net.org status tracker.
[07:25:34] <hook> > over-expectancies of people torward a free of charge service never ceases to amaze me... ™️
I do apologise. I did not want to sound pushy. (made a donation to hopefully make up for it)
[07:27:59] <Hook> > <@maranda:aria-net.org> hook fyi... << 23/01 We have been sorting out post-migration issues with the Kubernetes Cluster network fabric integration into our internal WAN infrastructure which may have caused service intermittence, sorry for the inconvenience. >> directly from the aria-net.org status tracker.

Whoops, I somehow missed that. I only noticed the News feed. My bad. And again, thank you for working on it!
[07:37:33] <hook> Maranda, does that mean not only is the bridge run by you (through Aria), but you also run/host the whole XMPP infrastructure of YuNoHost?
[09:28:10] <Chatpitaine Caverne> > <@titus:pijean.ovh> Chatpitaine Caverne: even better, I would try the following:
> ```
> sudo yunohost app shell peertube
> npm install @peertube/peertube-cli
> ```
> and always run all subsequent peertube-cli commands in the app shell environment

Hello, I come back with this one cause installing like this didn't give me access to peertube-cli command, even inside the app's shell. I don't know why.
And the other point is a question : Is the peertube-runner shipped with the yunohost-app Peertube ?
Thank you. And sorry not reporting the first point earlier (some kind of psycho block).
[09:31:54] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Seems not to be shipped with : https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/peertube\_ynh/blob/dfc696c90ef0f5e6e3d1020aa520c530a5da29e5/scripts/install#L109
[09:31:54] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Seems not to be shipped wxith : https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/peertube\_ynh/blob/dfc696c90ef0f5e6e3d1020aa520c530a5da29e5/scripts/install#L109
[10:54:20] <peuplier> Hey there just want to do a big up for the team behind yunohost! Amazing work. Just installed it yesterday, everything is smooth sailing !
[11:00:50] <Hook> > <@maranda:aria-net.org> hook I run conference.yunohost.im and Bifrost for the Matrix bridging

That’s quite a lot! Thanks for all of this. (BTW this message of yours still hasn’t reached me over XMPP. Just trying to help out diagnose things; please don’t feel pressured)
[11:20:49] <Maranda> s/conference.yunohost.im/conference.yunohost.org/ btw *ERRATA check*
[11:22:53] <Mateusz Szymański> > <@chatpitaine:cirkau.art> Seems not to be shipped with : https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/peertube\_ynh/blob/dfc696c90ef0f5e6e3d1020aa520c530a5da29e5/scripts/install#L109

it's a separate app: https://github.com/YunoHost-Apps/peertube_remote_runner_ynh
[11:36:22] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Mateusz Szymański: thank you. I'm trying to implement that on a Jetson Nano. Very curious about that try. But Nvidia is not a debian friend. For now I was just able to install an Ubuntu 18.04...
Well, at least, I can install it on another raspi. This try is following an upload of 2 very long and very high resolution videos from my co-admin (the same as the "bunch of video delete), which helps me a lot to progress in system knowledge. Raspi got unreachable for hours, but at the end, everything was ok (to my big surprise).
[17:28:41] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Mateusz Szymański: Great, I have another rPI as a runner perfectly operational. Perfect.
Now, I can work on building something on the Jetson. Thank you.
[17:28:41] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Mateusz Szymański: Great, I have another rPI as a runner perfectly operational. Perfect.
Now, I can work on building something on the Jetson.
[17:28:42] <orhtej2> > <@chatpitaine:cirkau.art> Mateusz Szymański: Great, I have another rPI as a runner perfectly operational. Perfect.
> Now, I can work on building something on the Jetson. Thank you.

Thank lapineige iirc, he packaged it😇
[17:29:14] <Chatpitaine Caverne> lapineige: ❤️😻🫶🎉🐈️
[17:58:31] <lapineige> > <@chatpitaine:cirkau.art> Hello, I come back with this one cause installing like this didn't give me access to peertube-cli command, even inside the app's shell. I don't know why.
> And the other point is a question : Is the peertube-runner shipped with the yunohost-app Peertube ?
> Thank you. And sorry not reporting the first point earlier (some kind of psycho block).

I wonder if peertube-cli should be a config panel option/a specific YNH app 🤔
[17:58:33] <lapineige> > <@chatpitaine:cirkau.art> Mateusz Szymański: thank you. I'm trying to implement that on a Jetson Nano. Very curious about that try. But Nvidia is not a debian friend. For now I was just able to install an Ubuntu 18.04...
> Well, at least, I can install it on another raspi. This try is following an upload of 2 very long and very high resolution videos from my co-admin (the same as the "bunch of video delete), which helps me a lot to progress in system knowledge. Raspi got unreachable for hours, but at the end, everything was ok (to my big surprise).

> Raspi got unreachable for hours, but at the end, everything was ok (to my big surprise).

Encoding time I guess ? What kind of Raspberry Pi is that ? You could lover the number of encoding process
[17:58:36] <Chatpitaine Caverne> > > Raspi got unreachable for hours, but at the end, everything was ok (to my big surprise).
>
> Encoding time I guess ? What kind of Raspberry Pi is that ? You could lover the number of encoding process

Hopêfully, this point is behind me.
[18:01:07] <Chatpitaine Caverne> This is a RPI 4B 8Go.
And indeed, I saw everything crashing one by one and 2 videos more than 1h40mn High résolution vidéos encoding. Then I was unable to do anything else than ping for hours. But everything went fine at the end. And like this, we have a runner.
[18:01:43] <lapineige> > Thank lapineige iirc, he packaged it😇

And Peertube dev, it helped me tremendously
[18:03:22] <lapineige> But yeah, the Peertube Runner feature is awesome, you can either offload or distribute computation between multiple servers, and even use a friend server (one day there might be dedicated services…), even if you run peertube on a potato server it will be smooth 🙂
[18:03:31] <Chatpitaine Caverne> > But yeah, the Peertube Runner feature is awesome, you can either offload or distribute computation between multiple servers, and even use a friend server (one day there might be dedicated services…), even if you run peertube on a potato server it will be smooth 🙂

Thats my plan with the Nano, If I manage to get it work. I'll be able to share with other instances without GPU.
[18:04:43] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Chocobuzzz is a kind of genious, isn't <del>it</del>he ?
[18:27:52] <hook> Does YuNoHost have a legal entity or some other type of organisation?
[18:38:49] <banthex> hihi :)
[18:38:50] <banthex> is there a fix for the castopod upgrade problem?
[18:38:50] <banthex> ah im sorry fixed it the root password changed somehow :D
[18:38:50] <banthex> anyway great project :)
[18:38:52] <Chatpitaine Caverne> > <hook> Does YuNoHost have a legal entity or some other type of organisation?

They won't speak without a lawyer. 😸
[18:38:54] <orhtej2> > <@banthex:matrix.org> is there a fix for the castopod upgrade problem?

What problem?
[18:40:14] <hook> > > <hook> Does YuNoHost have a legal entity or some other type of organisation?
>
> They won't speak without a lawyer. 😸
Hehe, I’m trying to invite them to a mailing list where FOSS NGOs talk about governance etc.
(also am lawyer)
[18:45:11] <hook> (boo!)
[19:47:03] <hook> Anyone crazy enough to run YuNoHost on ZFS?
[20:13:35] <hook> > Anyone crazy enough to run YuNoHost on ZFS?
(BTW, did not recieve any message from Matrix to XMPP since the quoted message)
[20:14:56] <Salamandar> I mean my system is on an SSD, but i have a mounted ZFS array
[20:14:56] <tonio10> > <@Salamandar:matrix.org> if I was rich I would have a 4-8TB-SSD-ZFS array

Hi! In France, I order SSD on LDLC, the prices are same as Amazon. I don't like Amazon ^^
[20:14:56] <Salamandar> if I was rich I would have a 4-8TB-SSD-ZFS array
[20:14:56] <Salamandar> agreed !
[20:15:08] <Hook> > <@Salamandar:matrix.org> yeah why ?

My new server is a Ryzen with 32 GB RAM and once I migrate from the old servers, I would have a two spare 1 TB WD RED HDDs in addition to the 1 TB NVME I use as the main SSD for YNH. (I also have another 500 GB unused SSD lying around) …so, something like ZFS or BtrFS kinda seems cool.
[20:15:08] <Chatpitaine Caverne> I just noticed that cockpit (which is in yunohost app catalog) has a ZFS GUI app. Is it possible to use this on Yunohost ?
[20:15:12] <Salamandar> except some specific/small things (like usb chargers), LDLC has reasonable prices
[20:30:39] <hook> I currently have the default Ext4 on the main SSD. Would it be a hard thing to migrate to ZFS? I never used it.
[20:30:57] <Salamandar> Welp i just installed debian (because my NAS has no official yunohost image, and that's okay), manually configured ZFS via command line, then installed yunohost
[20:30:58] <Salamandar> dunno if cockpit is good or not
[20:34:43] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Cause I gave a try to TrueNAS, but I won't continue with it (at least for now). Mainly two points about this choice :

1. While learning it, I was travelling in the forum to find answers, and many many answers from IX-system (or experts on TrueNAS) was border line in term of respect. So much that I never never posted a single question.
2. One day it crashed suddenly, I never came back since, mainly because of the first point.
Of course I was still in test phase, so not repairing it was an option.
Maybe I miss a very nice tool, but now, I prefer start working on full Yunohost univers.
[20:47:55] <Salamandar> > <hook> I currently have the default Ext4 on the main SSD. Would it be a hard thing to migrate to ZFS? I never used it.

dunno about that
[20:47:56] <Chatpitaine Caverne> > <hook> I currently have the default Ext4 on the main SSD. Would it be a hard thing to migrate to ZFS? I never used it.

ZFS is very nice. To take advantage of it you need multiple disks. I don't think ZFS on a single drive is interesting.
But as soon as you have a ZFS pool and mounted datasets, you can use it exactly as other directories.
[20:57:01] <hook> Chatpitaine Caverne, if I figure out how to fit them all in, I could already start with 1 × 1TB M.2 SSD, 2 × 1TB 2.5" HDD, 1 × 500MB SATA SSD
[21:10:02] <Chatpitaine Caverne> Well still not an expert on ZFS so all of the following is potential mistake.
With TrueNAS at least, but I think it is the same for all ZFS. It uses full disks (not parts of them). Plus to get correct performance with HDD drives stockage, you can use a dedicated SSD to put the LOG (a very small one is enough, but a very small one is slow) and another dedicated SSD to store the Metadata and the small size files (size limit parameter of the pool).
Cause you have a lot of RAM, you won't need a L2 Cache disk.
[21:11:30] <lapineige> Considering the level of niche/technical expertise required by that topic, wouldn't that be better to have this conversation in a forum post, instead of this support channel ? 🙂
[23:24:13] <lapineige> Does anyone know how to fix a Postgresql with a too low pool size or something that prevent it from working and the app complains about an overloaded database ?
[23:24:14] <tane> Would I be correct in thinking that headscale cannot be used on a server running the VPN Client app?
[23:24:17] <lapineige> > Does anyone know how to fix a Postgresql with a too low pool size or something that prevent it from working and the app complains about an overloaded database ?

Oh wait :
> Jan 24 22:38:45 postgresql@13-main[789662]: Error: /usr/lib/postgresql/13/bin/pg_ctl /usr/lib/postgresql/13/bin/pg_ctl start -D /var/lib/postgresql/13/main -l /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-13-main.log -s -o -c config_file="/etc/postgresql/13/main/postgresql.conf" exited with status 1: Jan 24 22:38:45 systemd[1]: postgresql@13-main.service: Can't open PID file /run/postgresql/13-main.pid (yet?) after start: Operation not permitted Jan 24 22:38:45 systemd[1]: postgresql@13-main.service: Failed with result 'protocol'.

Sounds bad uh...
[23:24:17] <lapineige> what parameter may I tweak ?
(This is for bonfire and the app clearly says it's a database overload issue)
[23:24:19] <tonton> Hi, how do I find the CLI equivalent to the 'push DNS records' button on a gandi domain with api key? (The IP address changes and ynh doesn't update the DNS on it's own even though it technically could) 🌻
[23:24:35] <tonton> In the ynh webadmin.